Comments on: Religion, Ignorance, Intolerance and Irony http://strontium90.wordpress.com/2006/02/02/riii/ Sat, 01 Jul 2006 16:09:56 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: ahnaqsh http://strontium90.wordpress.com/2006/02/02/riii/#comment-4 ahnaqsh Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:08:36 +0000 http://strontium90.wordpress.com/2006/02/02/riii/#comment-4 I guess I never got back to you on that ;-) I'm sorry, but I've mainly forgotten that line of argument, but it mainly concerned the fact that I had never heared about the American flushing Qurans in toilets, mind you : they're apt to that kind of thing, and they perhaps do it; it's just that I had never heared it said before, and so it is not well-known. The cartoons are well-known, though. How they became well-known is something I don't know, especially considering they're not the first depictions of this nature (By the way, thanks a lot for the link!). But perhaps the mood nowdays is different, what with Hamas winning, and the progressivelymore powerful Islamic revivalism and stuff... Religion is making a comeback, perhaps..all over the world, it is happening. Whether it's the brief wakefullness that precedes eventual death or the awakening of a dormant giant is a matter that days will settle; if the matter is indeed that much of a clear-cut two-sided issue. I guess I never got back to you on that ;-)
I’m sorry, but I’ve mainly forgotten that line of argument, but it mainly concerned the fact that I had never heared about the American flushing Qurans in toilets, mind you : they’re apt to that kind of thing, and they perhaps do it; it’s just that I had never heared it said before, and so it is not well-known. The cartoons are well-known, though. How they became well-known is something I don’t know, especially considering they’re not the first depictions of this nature (By the way, thanks a lot for the link!). But perhaps the mood nowdays is different, what with Hamas winning, and the progressivelymore powerful Islamic revivalism and stuff… Religion is making a comeback, perhaps..all over the world, it is happening. Whether it’s the brief wakefullness that precedes eventual death or the awakening of a dormant giant is a matter that days will settle; if the matter is indeed that much of a clear-cut two-sided issue.

]]> By: ahnaqsh http://strontium90.wordpress.com/2006/02/02/riii/#comment-3 ahnaqsh Sun, 05 Feb 2006 23:04:26 +0000 http://strontium90.wordpress.com/2006/02/02/riii/#comment-3 I certainly don't know about pantheism, and that's why I asked you; if I knew, I wouldn't have bothered to ask. The thing about pantheism is that it seems to have varieties, so I can't really know about it from reading, perhaps your idea of it is different from the stuff on, say, the Wikipedia entry on pantheism. This is common when it comes to religions, people have different versions. What is pantheism from your perspective? Also, the people who are likely to be annoyed about your being a pantheist are highly unlikely to have even heared of it before; people hate and fear what they don't know (double so for religions and intellectual trends); I merely suggest you remove that statement, because I think it's a bad idea. As to the other point, I'll get back to you on it later. Best regards. Ahmed. I certainly don’t know about pantheism, and that’s why I asked you; if I knew, I wouldn’t have bothered to ask.

The thing about pantheism is that it seems to have varieties, so I can’t really know about it from reading, perhaps your idea of it is different from the stuff on, say, the Wikipedia entry on pantheism. This is common when it comes to religions, people have different versions. What is pantheism from your perspective?

Also, the people who are likely to be annoyed about your being a pantheist are highly unlikely to have even heared of it before; people hate and fear what they don’t know (double so for religions and intellectual trends); I merely suggest you remove that statement, because I think it’s a bad idea.

As to the other point, I’ll get back to you on it later.

Best regards.

Ahmed.

]]> By: strontium90 http://strontium90.wordpress.com/2006/02/02/riii/#comment-2 strontium90 Sat, 04 Feb 2006 22:30:53 +0000 http://strontium90.wordpress.com/2006/02/02/riii/#comment-2 In my view, the events are directly comparable because both address intentional insults to highly-respected cornerstones of Islam. Most recations from the Islamic world, specially those who argue on the grounds of aniconism, are ironic and show ignorance of the very Islamic culture. It is very important to remember that despite the prohibition against depicting the prophet, hundreds of paintings, drawings and other symbolic images of him have been created over the centuries both in Islamic and non-Islamic art, with next to nonexistent complaint from the Islamic world. <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/">This page</a> gives few examples. If you knew about the essence of pantheism you wouldn't have asked me the latter question. In my view, the events are directly comparable because both address intentional insults to highly-respected cornerstones of Islam.
Most recations from the Islamic world, specially those who argue on the grounds of aniconism, are ironic and show ignorance of the very Islamic culture. It is very important to remember that despite the prohibition against depicting the prophet, hundreds of paintings, drawings and other symbolic images of him have been created over the centuries both in Islamic and non-Islamic art, with next to nonexistent complaint from the Islamic world. This page gives few examples.

If you knew about the essence of pantheism you wouldn’t have asked me the latter question.

]]> By: ahnaqsh http://strontium90.wordpress.com/2006/02/02/riii/#comment-1 ahnaqsh Sat, 04 Feb 2006 20:16:28 +0000 http://strontium90.wordpress.com/2006/02/02/riii/#comment-1 Strontium90 wrote: Where were you when US army personnel flushed copies of the Quran in the toilets of the Guantánamo Bay prison camp? .. I don't think these events are directly comparable. By the way, what's a pantheist? Also, don't you think it's a bad idea declaring right out in front like you did that you're a pantheist? Strontium90 wrote:

Where were you when US army personnel flushed copies of the Quran in the toilets of the Guantánamo Bay prison camp?

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I don’t think these events are directly comparable.

By the way, what’s a pantheist?

Also, don’t you think it’s a bad idea declaring right out in front like you did that you’re a pantheist?

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